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28 May 10 - 17:15:52 > OZANTHEPOET: Sorry I am late. Good night BB!Smile
28 May 10 - 17:17:08 > irincou: Ozan it is late for us anyway... we function in slow motion!!!LaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:18:34 > alpha: not so late for me, yet I feel I am in slomo also LaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:18:54 > OZANTHEPOET: LaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:19:56 > irincou: LaughingLaughingAlpha!
28 May 10 - 17:22:16 > irincou: What are you doing Alpha??? I mean now!
28 May 10 - 17:22:51 > OZANTHEPOET: It is good to be in slomo. Life is better .Smile
28 May 10 - 17:23:22 > alpha: just chilling, listening to the music, glancing at the NY Times, irincou; what about you?
28 May 10 - 17:23:57 > alpha: you are so right, ozan Smile
28 May 10 - 17:25:41 > OZANTHEPOET: Smile
28 May 10 - 17:26:28 > irincou: Me too listening chilling and trying to create thoughts !!Wink
28 May 10 - 17:27:37 > alpha: CoolCool what are you thinking about?
28 May 10 - 17:27:51 > irincou: Ozan I was just explaining to a younger friend of mine that when you are in slomo you get creative in thinking!! Because your mind is freed of obligations and therefore can think originally!
28 May 10 - 17:29:07 > irincou: I am thinking about how an object can be more important because of its meaning rather than because of its value!
28 May 10 - 17:30:06 > BEACHBOY: Smileozan inncouSmileSmile
28 May 10 - 17:30:15 > alpha: absolutely; meaning=value, to me at least
28 May 10 - 17:31:23 > irincou: YesYes
28 May 10 - 17:31:54 > alpha: there he goes, breaking the spell Rolling eyes
28 May 10 - 17:32:20 > OZANTHEPOET: Some times ý thik that I a exaggeratin but be in in slomo is being in out of dimetions of time. oops subject has changed while I was writing. I am deep in slomo I thinkSmile
28 May 10 - 17:32:59 > irincou: Meaning is value... yes alpha! But people don't realise it!
28 May 10 - 17:33:47 > alpha: that is an interesting point ozan; slomo can give feeling of being out of time
28 May 10 - 17:34:12 > irincou: Well Ozan being out of tim,e dimentions is freedom! You get out of the cage of time!
28 May 10 - 17:34:35 > alpha: I agree irincou but I am also very sympathetic to people and their trouble; so many people are just burdened with so many cares
28 May 10 - 17:35:06 > irincou: Out of time is when you can be thinking of both past and future as the present doies not really exist!
28 May 10 - 17:35:31 > alpha: I consider myself so lucky that I have been able to have time to think a little bit about what this may be all about
28 May 10 - 17:37:26 > irincou: True alpha! The meaning though of things can make it easier even on them! It is another thing when you expect (e.g.) an expensive present from someone and never get it and it is completely different not expecting anything and get a little stone for exampl
28 May 10 - 17:37:54 > irincou: .... as a token for love!
28 May 10 - 17:38:30 > irincou: And by stone I mean stone (no "stone" as in diamond) LaughingLaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:39:23 > alpha: oh, I know exactly what you mean; a little stone (or its equivalent) given in true love is beyond price!!!
28 May 10 - 17:39:50 > irincou: YesYes
28 May 10 - 17:40:23 > OZANTHEPOET: Evevrybody has time alpha. If you are out of time that means you got time.
28 May 10 - 17:40:48 > irincou: when you learn how to value true meaning of things then you are not ever miserable!
28 May 10 - 17:42:03 > alpha: YesYes it's just a matter of changing the scale of expectations; it is all about expectations, isn't it?
28 May 10 - 17:42:53 > alpha: what you said is very interesting, ozan; I have to think about that
28 May 10 - 17:43:10 > irincou: Oh yes expectations!!! Have you read the "great" ones well... no need to say more!!
28 May 10 - 17:43:46 > alpha: YesYes
28 May 10 - 17:43:47 > OZANTHEPOET: Step by step irincou. It never ends.
28 May 10 - 17:44:32 > irincou: YesYesOzan
28 May 10 - 17:47:02 > OZANTHEPOET: some body says that a bottle of wine includes philosophy. Shame on meLaughingLaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:48:17 > irincou: All the beautiful and tasty things include philosophy that is the epicurian way of thinking!!! Close to "I love life" culture!
28 May 10 - 17:53:15 > irincou: We cecame very philosophical tonight... quite therapeutic for the our of the day! (Or night I might say)
28 May 10 - 17:53:21 > OZANTHEPOET: Life is life. Ozan is Ozan. Beautifýul and tasty thing don't give you an inspiration every time.
28 May 10 - 17:54:02 > OZANTHEPOET: YesYesYes
28 May 10 - 17:54:44 > OZANTHEPOET: YesYesYesirincou
28 May 10 - 17:55:02 > irincou: Inspiration needs time (free of obligations) and a full heart in my opinion!
28 May 10 - 17:56:16 > irincou: When you are consumed in everyday life no inspiration arrives!! But if you stay back a little and appreciate little things then you might have a chance!
28 May 10 - 17:56:21 > irincou: CoolCool
28 May 10 - 17:56:48 > alpha: ..and I need a better functioning wifi to keep up with you guys LaughingLaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:57:30 > alpha: I had written earlier that we need to try to break free of our addictions but is it possible?
28 May 10 - 17:57:35 > irincou: LaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 17:57:47 > irincou: mmmmm palestrina...
28 May 10 - 17:58:36 > alpha: yes, beautiful; thanks much batman !!
28 May 10 - 17:58:53 > irincou: An addiction is difficult to surpass... one needs the will to do it the "want" is not enough!
28 May 10 - 17:59:38 > irincou: People are addicted to many things the consuming society has imposed...
28 May 10 - 17:59:50 > alpha: yes; and I think fundamentally all of our lives is about trying to balance our addictions so they don't get the better of us
28 May 10 - 18:00:30 > irincou: We need to discover a simpler way of enjoying life!
28 May 10 - 18:01:39 > alpha: yes, we say we need to but do you really think we can do it, irini? I am skeptical
28 May 10 - 18:01:56 > irincou: True alpha! Our addiction get our purpose away! When all your life is consumed in trying to buy a better car than the neighbor has then you have lost the meaning of life
28 May 10 - 18:03:03 > irincou: Unfortunately people live this way and it is sad that they are sad because they cannot achieve the commercial's goal!
28 May 10 - 18:04:00 > alpha: yes, you are spot on
28 May 10 - 18:05:11 > alpha: and yet we are driven driven driven; it's in our genes, the devil
28 May 10 - 18:05:16 > OZANTHEPOET: ý belive in excitement. If you are excited because you breath. That's O.K.
28 May 10 - 18:06:27 > alpha: yes, ozan, the simplest things are the truest; always
28 May 10 - 18:06:33 > irincou: I am skeptical too! The opportunity is arriving though having the shape of an economic crisis... having the shape of an environmental crisis!! I think that in a few years appeciating simpler things will be a oneway road!
28 May 10 - 18:07:35 > alpha: I think it will have to be or we must face much worse catastrophes; I agree entirely
28 May 10 - 18:08:17 > alpha: we will have to relearn how to love one another or the devil will get us all
28 May 10 - 18:08:27 > irincou: YesYes
28 May 10 - 18:10:28 > OZANTHEPOET: May I be the devil at that time?SmileLaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 18:10:51 > alpha: I'm an existentialist; live for the moment, take you happiness wherever you can and don't worry about the rest
28 May 10 - 18:11:15 > alpha: LaughingLaughingLaughing ozan
28 May 10 - 18:11:29 > irincou: YesYesI agree alpha!!
28 May 10 - 18:11:50 > alpha: of course, not forgetting that your happiness should not block someone else's
28 May 10 - 18:11:55 > irincou: Ozan... how would you become the devil?
28 May 10 - 18:12:15 > alpha: which can be hard to engineer, sometimes
28 May 10 - 18:13:15 > OZANTHEPOET: I have a potential.
28 May 10 - 18:13:15 > irincou: Indeed alpha!!It is but we only live once we should not pass opprtunities!
28 May 10 - 18:13:43 > irincou: How Ozan??
28 May 10 - 18:13:55 > alpha: LaughingLaughing I bet the devil can write great seductive poetry
28 May 10 - 18:14:45 > irincou: Alpha when I have beautiful feelings about something I do not jump over! I stay and enjoy!
28 May 10 - 18:15:01 > OZANTHEPOET: Angel and devil whisper to poetLaughingLaughingLaughing
28 May 10 - 18:15:03 > alpha: you are right irincou but that ethical question (your happiness versus that of others) is very tricky
28 May 10 - 18:15:10 > irincou: poetry huh!! I am curious! OZAN!!!!
28 May 10 - 18:16:05 > alpha: it is a great strength to have great self control, irincou; I am still struggling with that and probably always will
28 May 10 - 18:16:14 > irincou: Sure! How can I have a total of good feeling when I am stepping onto others happiness! Now my ethics stop me there! I can't feel good!
28 May 10 - 18:16:53 > alpha: YesYes
28 May 10 - 18:17:47 > irincou: So the stuggle exists because of your inner self... Not because some religion, political view or other person dictateσ!
28 May 10 - 18:18:04 > irincou: dictates*
28 May 10 - 18:18:22 > alpha: the whispers of angels and devils; cool stuff, ozan
28 May 10 - 18:19:26 > alpha: oh, absolutely, irincou; the devil (and occasionally an angel) is pretty much within us, independent of the exterior
28 May 10 - 18:19:49 > alpha: ozan, do you write in turkish?
28 May 10 - 18:20:57 > OZANTHEPOET: Yes, but they are all for fun. I mean they are all lies.Smile
28 May 10 - 18:21:49 > alpha: you don't mean lies, you mean fiction, right?
28 May 10 - 18:22:44 > alpha: don't worry ozan; we are all fictionalists, ultimately; the fictions we tell ourselves and those we tell others
28 May 10 - 18:23:31 > OZANTHEPOET: No, they are all lies. That's the poem of mine. Smile
28 May 10 - 18:23:44 > irincou: even if he meant lies... it can be poetry... because through lies we say the truth most of the time!
28 May 10 - 18:24:29 > alpha: ok; perhaps we can read your poems someday?
28 May 10 - 18:24:31 > OZANTHEPOET: YesYesYesalpha and irincou
28 May 10 - 18:25:05 > irincou: YesYes
28 May 10 - 18:25:22 > OZANTHEPOET: You read alreadySmileSmileSmile
28 May 10 - 18:25:32 > alpha: yes, certainly lies can be poetry but then a lie to one is a truth to another
28 May 10 - 18:26:21 > alpha: yes, I suppose, we did; you do have a way with words CoolCool
28 May 10 - 18:27:07 > irincou: CoolCoolCoolWow that was a happening in our chat room!!
28 May 10 - 18:27:29 > irincou: Lies are truth in a way!!!
28 May 10 - 18:27:33 > irincou: It is like choosing a costume to dress up in carnival! The costume we choose is a lie, but can tell some truth about our choice!
28 May 10 - 18:28:11 > alpha: YesYesYes; that's why I wish the chat logs could be preserved;
28 May 10 - 18:28:40 > alpha: that is very true, irincou
28 May 10 - 18:28:48 > irincou: Besides the truth is lurking on the reason of telling lies
28 May 10 - 18:29:40 > alpha: good way to put it, irini